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Caldari Incognito
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Posted - 2007.10.04 08:52:00 -
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It's almost like Caldari have been pushed to the side and left there to npc. Thats just about all they're good for these days.
I can't find one ship in the Caldari race that's better than an equal classed ship.
Actually.. I can't find anything really good about Caldari anymore.
They are lowest DPSers
They do have ECM. But ECM aint as good as Dampning...
Sure they have good passive tanks, but they will still lose any 1on1 fight vs. any other race.
They cant hit fast ships with their missiles.
Whats left besides NPC?
Caldari doesnt fit the "story line" anymore.
Figure something out, cuz this is kinda sad.
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Caldari Incognito
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Posted - 2007.10.04 09:02:00 -
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they plan was something konstructive out of this.. I guess thats too much to ask from this forum.
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Posted - 2007.10.04 09:17:00 -
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its not about whining, which is how you automatically took this post.
I just think it twisted in a direction, where its too unballanced.
And please keep it clean.. dont tell people to shut up.
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Caldari Incognito
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Posted - 2007.10.04 09:36:00 -
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 Originally by: Cryselle
I want to see a 1vs1 against my nighthawk that can overcome my tank. And I simply wear them down over time.
Even a fully gank fitted geddon with 4 HSII and Pulses with max skills couldn't kill it.
Tweaking yes, fundamental changes no
Sure, erverything is possible..
But how much did you spend on it?
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Posted - 2007.10.04 09:54:00 -
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Edited by: Caldari Incognito on 04/10/2007 09:55:10
You are right James. Caldari can field a massive tank, but at the cost of controlling the battle.
You can never have a tanked ship AND hold a hostile.
hence.. you can always get away from a Caldari.
you just dont have room for scrambler and web AND mwd. loose one of them and ALL ships are faster.
Fit all 3 of em and your tank goes faster than lighting
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Posted - 2007.10.04 11:46:00 -
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you didnt use any cap..
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Posted - 2007.10.04 20:36:00 -
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Originally by: Dretzle Omega
One question I have after reading much of this thread, is why do people think that just because Caldari work best in group scenarios that they suck? In many games you'll have a class that works best in a group but PvPing alone would suck. I've heard of healer classes in other games. You take a healer/medic into PvP alone and obviously he will be ripped to shreds. You take a healer/medic with a group into PvP and the group as a whole will do better off than without the medic.
So, if Caldari work most effectively in a group, why does that mean they are broken? Why does Caldari have to be able to win 1 on 1 fights in order to make them a race worth considering?
The fact that you cant control a fight situation says it all.
Caldari aint feared i a solo situation.
I would go up against a Caldarii ship any day... if he scrams me, I drive away.. if he webs me, I warp.. if he does both, I know for a fact I can kill him, cuz then his tank is not there.
Sure Caldari aint all crap.. true. But you cant name one class, where Caldari is the best. forget about good, Im talking BEST. And THATS unbalanced!
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Posted - 2007.10.05 12:49:00 -
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Originally by: Isan Danderoda
Having been to war with a Caldari PvP corp I have to say that I can't take the whining anymore. They were good...really good.
Yeah, the DPS of Caldari ships looks bad on paper, but honestly they can take it to the others plenty well. I think the big problem is that people don't see both sides of the balance issue. Good range, variety of weapons (missiles and hybrids and drones), great ECM ships, tough tank. All said, yes, there are tradeoffs. And no, I imagine they aren't terribly good at one on one, but a well assembled group is stunningly brutal.
So yeah, they may need a little tweaking, but honestly what most people are missing is the right strategy for Caldari ships. When employed correctly a totally Caldari fleet is devastating...much like anyone else. Play to your strengths and you will find just how well all of the races can do.
Thats besides the point... tactics can do alot and bla bla..
The point is; how good are they compaired to other races. And sure they can do this and that at the expence of some thing else.
The difference is.. the other classes dont have to sacrifice as much.
Someone mentioned the fact that Caldari have the option of fitting damage modifiers in Low... Thats a MUST and the avg. DPS is setup to take that into consiteration.
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Posted - 2007.10.05 13:21:00 -
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Originally by: Hyakuchan
Originally by: Caldari Incognito
The difference is.. the other classes dont have to sacrifice as much.
Except Amarr.
I don't see problems with Caldari. They have the things they're good at, and then they have the things they're supposed to be good at but aren't. You can say that about every race*.
*Except Gallente. Their ships radiate dangerous levels of awesome.
Amarr can still have 2 very important options of controlling battles.. speed and scramble, while they have a tank. I know they sacrifice dps to have a godlike tank, but they still have better dps than caldari with 1-2 BCU II.
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